


Fifth consecutive month I have to remind people that XMPP exists.

OK, but why not matrix?

AT Proto is a terrible base for a chat app. There’s a reason Bluesky’s DMs aren’t stored in your PDS. Hell, even your bookmarks (which are stored in your PDS) are off protocol.
Colibri to my knowledge is basically doing public chats until private spaces are in a better spot then doing private spaces for private groups.
Roomy.space is another one of these who built their own private spaces on atproto and would be worth checking out.
Also Atproto isn't inherently a bad place for this since it can be a hybrid system of on or off protocol, or using their upcoming permissioned data spaces for private data.
HEY HEY HEY, don’t get me wrong now but I’m seeing dozens of Discord-like apps over the past year and can’t understand one thing about them, which is WE ALREADY HAVE THE CHAT PART SINCE FUCKING 1988, it’s called IRC, it’s lightweight, not bloated, works everywhere, extendible and still maintained.
Discord (and Slack) are proprietary IRC forks themselves.
It’s the voice/video call part that Discord solved an none of these forks attempting to tackle that part.

I am interessed in the granular permission system and integrations
i also use irc but it doesn’t work for normies. there’s no integrated persistant chat log, image/file upload, voice chats, replies(linking to specific message), message editing, emoji reactions, voice chat, etc…

You must have never tried irc in conjunction with Convos or The Lounge

You have been using software stuck in the last century I’m afraid. IRCv3 solves all of this with the clear exception of voice/video chats. Use ergo server, the lounge or gamja as a web frontend. Motd on android feels like a current messenger (but it’s partly made with ai unfortunately). irc really is a credible possibility today
They add a TON of stuff, for example payments, age control, marketing and a lot of other nonsense
I think the goal here is to get the general population off Discord and moved into a more open platform.
IRC is great but I can't see the average user using it unfortunately. Every platform has its own goal, but the ultimate community goal is whatever pushes us to an open social space is a net positive imo!
Stoat and Fluxer already have voice/video solved just like Discord.
I wouldn’t call it a “solved” problem… I don’t use Fluxer but from what I read in online discussions it’s something that’s currently a pain point since they’re currently trying to overhaul the system
That’s pretty nice of them, really. How many concurrent users can they handle?

ATProtocol where you host the data but have no control of it.

You do have control over it though, I don’t get what you’re saying
I wonder how much of it is vibe coded and when will it lose updates after being released…
It has a single committer and there are two commits with Claude as co-author, so I would suggest it’s probably about as you’d expect.