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potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 days ago
Same guy that got on the Argentina hate train during the world cup, while having an Argentinian boyfriend. Duality of man, I guess.
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QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 9 days ago
There are right ringers going around saying he was talking about abortion and not trans people.
They want so badly to be culturally relevant
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likebudda@reddthat.com 9 days ago
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be trans but I can imagine what it’s like to be part of a small, persecuted minority. They’re not asking for much, quite frankly nothing at all that affects me directly, so I’m feeling especially generous. I’ve never been to a trans story hour but you know who you don’t want reading to kids? My boring ass.
ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 9 days ago
You’re cool. But I do know who I don’t want reading to my kids… anyone in the Epstein files.
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Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 days ago
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be trans
Here is a Lemmy post that explains it.
Malica@lemmy.zip 9 days ago
They think it makes them look strong
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Zink@programming.dev 9 days ago
Even if they don’t care about looking strong, they also define themselves by the things they hate, and they get genuine pleasure from punching down.
You know, like a bad person!
Granted, the latter but about punching down is probably from the same inadequate corner of their brain as the “look strong” stuff.
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BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 9 days ago
The occupy movement should have been way more specific and specified which one percent.
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AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 9 days ago
My partner was saying how it seems like most men cant look at a woman without also thinking about sex with them.
Idk how true that is but it might explain some of the anger towards trans women. Since men cant just think about them, men also have to think about having sex with them, and since so many men are extremely homophobic and dont consider trans women to be women, that would make them gay. And being being considered gay is worse than anything else in the world.
TL:DR Most men cant help but think about bangin’ trans women and they think that makes them gay. Which is a fate worse than death for them.
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lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 days ago
My partner was saying how it seems like most men cant look at a woman without also thinking about sex with them.
As a man I feel that way sometimes, sex is always on my mind. But like, if I look at a woman I’m not attracted to I just … don’t want to have sex with them. They’re still a person who I can have platonic interactions with. Same for the vast majority of women who I would like to have sex with who don’t feel the same way about me. I think this is the part the misogynist/transphobic dudes struggle with, they can’t get over themselves. For me the sexual thoughts are more often annoying than anything else and they’re only one part of the “whole” that I think about women.
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Soup@lemmy.world 9 days ago
My other theory is that these people base their whole lives on conformity. The second they see people doing things outside the norm, and which bring them some semblance of joy, they get pissed off knowing that they are too weak to break out of the mold and be happy, too.
In reality, it’s a combination of many of these kinds of things. A LOT of anger often comes from sadness, and boy do these people hate letting themselves be happy.
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DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 9 days ago
You might be on to something there. The frustration of cognitive dissonance can manifest as anger if people don’t know how to process it.
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jtrek@startrek.website 9 days ago
I don’t know how other men are but generally when I see someone (of any genre) there’s like an automatic evaluation - not in words or conscious - that flags like “are they a threat? Are they hot?” and a bunch of other stuff. It’s just part of the “what am I looking at?” reflex in the brain.
But I don’t, like, linger on it. Don’t play out in my head what sex would be like, or how to defend myself if they pulled a knife, or whatever.
To make a computer metaphor, some attributes are eagerly loaded and others lazily. I think attractiveness is eagerly loaded.
Also I’m comfortable enough not to feel threatened by finding people attractive.
I had a friend that, when talking about this, seemed like their brain didn’t eagerly load the same things. They didn’t “know” if someone was hot until they thought about it, and were confused how that information was just there for me.
° 。Juniper 。°@piefed.zip 9 days ago
My brain operates only on “are they a threat”, and within that is “are they a friend”. I can name only a handful of people I find attractive if I’m pressed, but it’s always on a “this human is art” level.
I’m aroace, though, which likely is why I don’t evaluate people for hotness
Jo Miran@lemmy.ml 9 days ago
You don’t have to “be a fan” in order to support someone’s right to exist.
I have a cousin who is transphobic in the sense that he is very uncomfortable around trans people. He cannot get past it and avoids interactions because he’s so uncomfortable. He also defends trans rights at every turn, publicly and without hesitation. Trans rights are human rights. Full stop.
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FishFace@piefed.social 9 days ago
I feel a bit similar with nonbinariness. Not uncomfortable but maybe unconvinced. But fucking hell, it’s not something worth hating anyone over. And like most things that I’m unconvinced by, it won’t prevent me from treating anyone politely. You’ve got to be a certain kind of fucked to let it get to you to that level, or worse, to whip up that kind of sentiment in others
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buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 9 days ago
I appreciate what you’re saying. It’d be great if more people were discerning with their placement of hate and understanding of how it propagates.
I do wonder if being ‘convinced’ is really all that important?
Personally, I think it’s sort of beside the point (which I think is exactly what you’re saying).
I guess what I’m wondering is: can we ever expect to be ‘convinced’ of every true experience? I think for me to be unabashedly ‘convinced’ of anything, I’d have to be able to identify with it personally. In a “I think therefore I am” sort of way. Your only experience is the one you know for sure exists yea?
Yet, I am consistently surprised as to the complexity of feelings when they become a reality for me. My takeaway is that I can’t hope to have true understanding of how any other person feels.
I can imagine what it’s like to lose a loved one, a pet, a job. I might judge someone based on their emotional response to an event. But, when it happens to me, I suddenly get it.
I get how much I could never ‘get’ before.
It is like adding a whole other dimension, a new axis, to my world. Think how a 3rd demensional object just just never be expressed in a 2d world. It’s like adding a new cone to your eye, or waking up and having the nose of a dog. There is just unfathomable complexity in the world, and we each take in just an extremely small portion of it at a time. New experiences, for me anyway, can often feel so novel in a ‘wow I was just so naive’ sort of way.
I just can’t trust my understanding of the complexity of human experience enough to think that I even have the capacity to imagine all of them.
How could someone who has never tried chocolate, really get what it tastes like? They just don’t, and can’t, not unless they actually experience it for themselves. And even then, no two experiences are quite the same; one person loves candy corn, the other hates it. Entirely different experience of taste, with the same stimuli.
All that is to say, I think that we are in agreement that whether or not we are “convinced” of any one reality, it’s really not the point. We just have to be convinced that our reality isn’t the only one.
We are all different! We will never get it all! But hopefully we can get that other people have different feelings than us, and that causing other people pain sucks!
So, be tolerant.
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StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 9 days ago
Yeah, the trans issue really isn’t on my personal pressing issue radar, but I’ll do what I can to shut any trans hate down when I witness it.