



This is about the extinction of hand coded programming as we know it. You know how very few people know assembly, and every so often a fortran expert has to be found to update a bank’s database so they can overhaul their systems?
What if all of programming becomes like that only worse. With new generations of programmers not actually knowing how to program. A massive decline in numbers and competence… Programmers that only “program” by talking to LLMs.
Ever seen an episode of Star Trek where a computer is in charge of everything, and society crumbles when it breaks down?
I think we might hit a plateau in a generation or two. The point at which we can generate more and more LLMs but don’t know how to make them any better. Let alone reprogram unrelated systems like medical scanners, or air traffic safety systems, or mapping systems.
“It’s okay we’ll have the LLMs improve the LLMs”… For the rest of eternity.

Who’s paying for the Claude code credits I wonder

check out the Linux Foundation members page, they (nvidia et al) literally pay Torvalds salary

Typical,🤣. They have found another circular route to fund AI 😂
“but”?
Or rather, LLMs helped create bad code, and so didn’t do a significant peice of work - or did it so poorly it was dangerous to rely on for an Operating system:
Race conditions in programming occur when multiple processes or threads attempt to modify and access shared data simultaneously, leading to unpredictable and unintended outcomes. They can result in data corruption, program failures, and other unexpected behaviors if not properly managed with synchronization techniques.
Wouldn’t it be more like the LLM presented a plan which involved cutting people into quarters then a human rubber stamped it and the people were cut into quarters?
The same happens when humans write code. Reviewers hopefully find some of their mistakes, then they fix them
I hope he posts on the LKML and gives himself a right scolding worthy of his failings. Sprinkle some "stupid"s and "idiotic"s in there for good measure.
Sooooo… are we gonna go oyr own kernel or something now? Seriously i cant believe this world. 35 years of work by tens of thousands of people and this is what we get?
What process is there which successfully prevents AI code submissions? I wonder if we’re even having the right discussion here.
I have always had mixed feelings about AI.
On one hand it is a good tool for offloading monotonous time consuming tasks that you already know how to do.
On the other, its a bad tool for outsourcing for tasks you dont know how to do.
It can be good for simple things, like i got claude code to build me a project planner and to-do list because i cant code but wanted something bespoke for me to help with my adhd. Its great for me but other people might hate it.
But if it is used in place of people figuring out complex problems in their field of expertise then it will inevitably lead to people lacking the skills to make anything and when the bubble bursts there wont be anyone left who knows how to make anything for themselves.
I am opposed to it being used so much at work, i hate getting AI responses from real people. But i a. Finding it increasingly difficult to find solutions to problems on forums and reddit because everything is just AI answers now :(
I also think linus using it to help him with problems he is struggling to solve is up to him. It might not be the method i would choose, but i didnt write an entire operating system.

Forking the Kernel to get it away from him is now a matter of national security
I think people who use and defend ai use as professionals are pick-mes and have shitty/broken moral compasses.
Works in the other direction too, some people just let the world wash over them and work with whats at hand without deluding themselves into thinking they matter enough to change it.
Ironically, the man in question has actually changed it, but the point stands.
I’d argue that pretending this is a big deal for some cheap hits is even worse though. The system is designed to identify when things like this happen, and it worked perfectly.
Race conditions in general aren’t newsworthy at all.
They’re generally fairly complex, an easy mistake to make (especially when optimising) and rarely obvious… And fairly common…
Torvalds had spent 18 months running a broken version of his own fix for the page-cache reference-counting bottleneck, while other developers had encountered problems with their approaches. The new patches eliminate folio reference-count operations from a common buffered-read path, although Torvalds warned that the benchmark gains would be considerably smaller in real-world workloads.
You know how in star trek or other shows with scripts, how the writers used to just put like <technobabble here> or something

They need to add an analogy in there…
“The problem is with the folio reference-count operations from a common buffered-read path”
“Of course! It’s just like putting too much air in a balloon!”
Yeah so then I swapped the flux combobulator with the drago-fleefloo-spectromodulator and we’re up to warp speed again. Thank you, Captain!